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What's Next! with Tiffani Bova

May 26, 2022

Welcome to the What's Next! podcast with Tiffani Bova.

We were lucky to find the awesome human Nataly Kogan and invite her on the What’s Next! Podcast to discuss emotional fitness and how to find inner happiness. She is the author of multiple books, most recently The Awesome Human Project: Break Free from Daily Burnout, Struggle Less, and Thrive More in Work and Life which helps people learn how to rest and feel more joy.

A leading expert on emotional fitness, Nataly Kogan is an entrepreneur, best-selling author, and keynote speaker on a mission to help millions of people struggle less and thrive more in work and life.

Nataly immigrated to the US as a refugee from the former Soviet Union when she was 13 years old. Starting her American life in the projects and on welfare, she went on to reach the highest levels of corporate and startup success. But after years of chasing a non-existent state of nirvana she suffered a debilitating burnout that led her to find a new way to live and work.

Today, she helps Awesome Humans live and work with more connection, joy, and meaning by sharing her science-backed skills and practices.


THIS EPISODE IS PERFECT FOR…  all levels of workers that are suffering from unprecedented levels of burnout and are seeking a means to break free from the cycle.


TODAY’S MAIN MESSAGE The best way to learn how to care about others is to first learn how to care for yourself. But sometimes our brain is hardwired for uncertainty, so we must become the editor of our own thoughts and have the mindset for self-compassion. That means learning to take a break for a restorative rest so we can focus on what’s truly meaningful to us.


WHAT I LOVE MOST… Nataly’s core belief is that we are all awesome humans who have goals and purpose and meaning in their lives. But also, some days we don’t have that awesomeness and we are just human – that’s okay too.



Running time: 31:02


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Nataly’s Book:

The Awesome Human Project: Break Free from Daily Burnout, Struggle Less, and Thrive More in Work and Life